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Reaching For The Moon And Mars
Aeronautical Engineers Lift Us To Far-Off Places.

By Katie McKy


Some are so lucky that when they close their eyes at night, they get to fly in their dreams. Some are even luckier: they get to fly when they’re awake, piloting planes into clouds. But the luckiest ones are those who make flight possible, the aeronautical engineers. And, we’re all lucky that they do what they do, for they’re the ones who whoosh us home for Christmas, jet us across oceans, and lift us into those clouds.

Fay Lawy—
Bombadier Aerospace

Faye Lawy is a business analyst for Bombadier Aerospace’s <www.bombadier.com> V5 Knowledge Based Engineering. Bombadier Aerospace and its 26,000 employees are well known for manufacturing business and regional aircraft. Its Learjet was and is a synonym for ultimate style. Founded in 1907, Bombadier has sites in Kansas, Northern Ireland, Mexico, Montreal, and Toronto. Lawy is based in Montreal, but she doesn’t just build jets. Her job can have her jetting to Paris. She says, “The company sent me to Paris. I saw the air show. We’re working on a new project and the company needed someone to run the demonstration on the computer. It was an amazing experience.”
What’s also an amazing experience is what she and her colleagues do everyday. “We manufacture airplanes, not washing machines. Just walking through the manufacturing plant, I’m amazed. I think, ‘My employer is manufacturing aircraft.’ It’s a cool product.”
What’s also cool is how open aeronautical engineering is to women. Lawy states, “There are many opportunities for women engineers. People are starting to appreciate diversity in the workplace. We don’t face a lot of the discrimination and issues that women who came before us faced. Today, everyone is inviting. More than that, there aren’t enough women engineers. We’re needed, so there’s nothing to be afraid of when joining this profession.”
Not only isn’t aeronautical engineering daunting for Lawy, it carries a certain cachet. She comments, “Everyone knows that airplanes are ‘cool.’ So, most people think that it’s neat that I do what I do.”
So, what does she do? “The project that I work on and the group that I work with are relatively new,” she declares. “We capture design knowledge. That way, you eliminate errors and other engineers can work a little bit more to invent new ways to accomplish tasks rather than just repeating the same task. The group for which I work is a really great team of people. Everyone wants to help each other. In a big company, you also get to do so many different things.”
So, how do you come to work for a big company such as Bombadier? Lawy says, “You need a certain enthusiasm for the job as well as the ability to think outside the box. Being a team player is also an important part of being in a company like Bombadier. You have to be able to work in a group.”
Lawy came to Bombadier by way of Concordia University in Montreal, where she earned a bachelor’s of engineering degree in mechanical engineering. It was through Concordia that she came to Bombadier. Lawy recalls, “At my university, there is an association that gives internships to different aerospace companies. There are quite a few such companies in Montreal. I applied for one of those internships and got it. I also took tours of the different companies. When I came to Bombadier, right away, I loved the department, which mixed mechanical engineering and industrial engineering to improve processes.”
To facilitate joining any new company, Lawy suggests mentoring. She advises, “Mentoring is important. My group mentors me and it’s essential for new employees and especially for those fresh out of school. You’re able to get experienced advice because your mentors have already been through the same jobs as you have. They guide you. It doesn’t always have to be official mentoring. Many engineers informally take on the mentoring role.”

Rhonda Y. Hayes—
Raytheon

Rhonda Y. Hayes is a solutions manager, SAS IT business application solutions for Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems <www.raytheon.com>. Hayes is one of 73,000 employees at Raytheon. “We’re a world leader in space and airborne systems,” she notes. “We provide our customers with sensors, integrated systems, and space and missile integration systems. We’re first in affordability, reliability, and availability.”
Like Lawy, Hayes oversees efficacy. “I’m part of a newly organized group, so my role evolves,” she explains. “Our new group is a business applications solutions group. It’s part of SAS information technology. We maintain value-added business solutions. We track and maintain the applications that people use to do their work.”
She also makes certain that federal accounting standards are being met. “We make sure that everything conforms to the new post-Enron Sarbanes Oxley standards,” she declares.
Also like Lawy, she was drawn to an aerospace company with intriguing breadth and depth. “I like the fact that Raytheon is into a lot of things,” Hayes states. “We’re a defense contractor, so we partner with a number of other aerospace and defense companies. The equipment that’s on airplanes comes from different companies and we’re number one in radar.”
How does Raytheon manage to be number one in radar? Hayes says, “We hire bright, talented young engineers, scientists, and mathematicians.”
Hayes became an engineer by way of Cal State Long Beach, where she earned a bachelor’s of science degree in computer engineering and is currently enrolled in a master’s program in engineering management at the college. “I tried to take a breadth of classes that would allow me to be flexible. I didn’t know how my skillsets were going to mix,” she says.
As Hayes was open in selecting her classes, she urges that others also be open. She remarks, “I always tell students, ‘You never stop learning.’ The old saying, ‘The more you know, the less you know,’ is truer than ever. Technology constantly changes. You can just try to stay current in your field, since it’s impossible to know everything. You find a few things you’re passionate about and try to stay informed. Also, know your resources. No one knows everything, so know the people who do know the right answers. ”
And why did Hayes apply to Raytheon? “I’m part of the ‘Star Trek’ generation, so it gives me a chance to go into real life versions of that adventure television show,” she comments.
But before Hayes was in the aerospace industry, she was an architect. She believes that that background gives her an advantage. “The advantage that architecture gives you is the ability to see things in an exploded view,“ she explains. “You see patterns. You’re able to identify patterns right away. When I look at things, I see beyond the wall.”
What also varies for Hayes is the diversity difference between where she worked and Raytheon. “I love the diversity and the community outreach at Raytheon,” she declares. “When I first started here, Bill Swanson was in charge and people said, ‘He talks the talk and walks the walk.’ That was fascinating for me. Normally, in the architectural environment, I was the only black woman. If there was another black employee, it was usually a man. So, I came from an environment where a big firm would constitute 100 employees. I came here and there were thousands and thousands of people of color and the president of the company was talking about diversity and respecting differences. That just blew me away. They say here that it’s okay to be who you are and that’s true and so refreshing. Today, Bill Swanson is the big boss and he still emphasizes these values.”
And how do the people of Raytheon feel about working in such an environment? “When I first started working here, I was amazed that people here had been working at the company for 25+ years. You just don’t find that nowadays. Even to this day, that just really amazes me.”

Sapna Lakshminarayanan—
Hawker Beechcraft:

Sapna Lakshminarayanan, is an aeronautical engineer for Hawker Beechcraft <www.hawkerbeechcraft.com>, based in Wichita, KS, and she is one of 8,000 employees. Hawker Beechcraft has 15 sites with manufacturing in the United, States, Mexico, and England. Born in India, Lakshminarayanan’s career in aerospace engineering was seeded by simply looking up.
“Back home, when I was a child, there was a park next to the airfield,” she remembers. “My parents would take me there and I could see aircraft taking off and landing. They were really up close: just a few hundred feet above us. At that age, I would wonder how just two people could control something so huge and so big. I wanted to know how were they able to control the speed and direction of those huge planes.”
Lakshminarayanan wonders no more. Today, she is proud to say, “Our company builds innovative and enduring brands of aircraft. I contribute to the design and performance of those aircraft. I love that I have the opportunity to be a part of a big project to design and improve some aspect of the aircraft. I get to work on new aircraft as well as existing aircraft.”
However, since Lakshminarayanan came halfway around the world to design for Hawker Beechcraft, there were some adjustments to be made. “I was surprised by a lot of empty space, very less people, as opposed to India, where every inch is occupied by someone. The winters are very different from back home,” she explains.
There were also academic adjustments. She had earned a bachelor’s of science degree in aerospace engineering at the Indian Institute of Technology, but went on to earn a master’s of science degree in aerospace engineering at Wichita State University. Right away, she noticed a difference in academic culture. “It was a big change,” she recalls. “At universities in India, it is more formal between your instructor and your student. Here I found out that it’s very informal. There are more opportunities to brainstorm with your professor here.”
Those opportunities for brainstorming continue at Hawker Beechcraft. Lakshminarayanan says, “Everyday is a challenge. Some of the projects that we get here make you think out of the box. It gives you an opportunity to space out your thinking.”
And what attributes does Lakshminarayanan believe Hawker Beechcraft needs for its “everyday” challenges? “Hawker Beechcraft needs employees who are motivated and passionate about their work. We also need professionals who have pioneering ideas and the ability to communicate those ideas. We need engineers able to generate the team’s idea of how to move forward, so that everybody’s contribution is noted.”
Mentors, according to Lakshminarayanan, facilitate having these ideas noted. “Cathy Downen is one of my mentors. I’ve been working with her for three or four months,” she remarks. “I was so impressed with her by the way she talked and how passionate she was about the projects. I approached her and asked her if she would be my mentor. She told me how she became the manager of a project and the challenges she faces, such as convincing people about her ideas.”
But having Downen as a mentor eased some of Lakshminarayanan’s challenges. “There was this project,” she recalls. “There is a certain area in flight controls and that’s the area I majored in for my master’s degree. I had worked on a theoretical basis in school. Cathy encouraged us to use our expertise in one of the aircraft’s projects. It was great, being accepted as an employee and then as an aerospace engineer. It was a good moment for me..”
Nowadays, if you look for Lakshminarayanan, you might have to look up: literally. Lakshminarayanan states, “After joining the company, it motivated me to actually learn flying. I’m in ground school right now. Soon, I’ll be practicing. We have a Hawker Beechcraft Employees’ Flying Club. It’s extraordinarily inexpensive through the flying club. It’s a heck of a perk.”

Colonel Merrily Madero—
U.S. Air Force

Colonel Merrily Madero is Vice Commander of the 17th Training Wing Goodfellow Air Force Base in Texas. Lakshminarayanan might have the perk of “extraordinarily inexpensive” flying lessons through Hawker Beechcraft, but Madero had a few rides in aircraft that make turbocharged Porsches feel like turtles. She recalls, “I’ve been in an F-15 and an F-16. Those rides were about a week apart. My first ride was in an F-16. It was a lot of low-level bombing runs. It was like being in a sports car that was incredibly fast. The F-15 was even faster. We did a vertical takeoff, which meant we went straight up, like a rocket. We got to do some negative Gs, so I experienced weightlessness. I got to do some spins and turns. I’m a skydiver, so I loved all those rides.”
Madero also loves to serve her country. “Serving my country is why I joined the U.S. Air Force, but I also love what I do,’ she states. “I always thought that when I stopped having fun, I’d go into the private sector. Well, 22 years later, I still enjoy what I do. I like to move around and live in different places and have a variety of different jobs. I’ve been able to deploy and serve my country in a combat environment. There’s never a dull moment. It’s always exciting.”
What Madero currently does is oversee the training of 10,000 fire protection, special instruments, and intelligence experts for the Air Force, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and various civilian agencies. “I am second in charge of running this air force training wing and base,” she says.
Having risen high, she has insight into what it takes to be promoted. “We look at people who have the maturity and potential to serve in that higher grade,” she explains. “It’s not necessarily a reward. It’s more about having the ability to grasp the next level. When you look at list of who’s been promoted, you say, ‘Oh, yes, I understand.’ You have to be able to take on all those additional roles and responsibilities and especially in the officer ranks.”
As Vice Commander, Madero also has insight into the general qualities that allow one to excel in the Air Force. “We have three core values: integrity, service before self, and excellence in all we do,” Madero says. “Integrity defines the character of a person and the character of the organization. Our goal is to have people of high character, people that other people look up to for guidance. The military personnel are respected highly. So, doing the right thing is crucial. Everybody who comes into the Air Force raises their right hand and agrees to defend the Constitution. We are called to deploy sometimes and must put our service to our country before ourselves. Excellence in all we do is the standard of striving to do our best. Whether it’s an E-mail or ensuring that as we train people to go to war, we do our best.”
Madero, who earned a bachelor’s of science degree in mechanical engineering from Michigan Technological University, has found that her degree has helped enable her to do her best work in unexpected ways. “Engineering has brought an incredible amount of credibility,” she notes. “I was walking down the Pentagon with a one-star general. He asked me, ‘What’s your degree in?’ I told him and he said, ‘Oh, so you’re smart.’ It buys me instant credibility. It’s given me the ability to problem-solve. When I deployed last year to Southwest Asia, we needed to move our base from one location to another. It required civil engineering expertise. I was able to finish ahead of schedule.”

Sable Arega-Hutton—
ITT
Sable Arega-Hutton is a business development manager for ITT “We design, develop, and manufacture components for aerospace and other industries,” she comments. “My responsibility is to do product development, strategic planning, and also work to identify growth opportunities.”
Arega-Hutton is pleased that she landed in the aerospace sector. “I like the aerospace industry,” she states. “I like that we always push the technology and the performance. The end market is exciting,” Arega-Hutton also likes the personnel at ITT. She says, “I also like the people. They have been with the business a long time and are passionate about their work.”
Arega-Hutton came to ITT by way of California State University in Northridge, where she earned a bachelor’s of science degree in mechanical engineering. She followed that degree with a master’s in business administration (MBA) from the University of LaVerne.
To smooth the transition from academia to career, Arega-Hutton encourages networking. “Learn about the industry,” she advises. “And make certain that you are passionate about the business and culture—they go hand in hand. So, talk to people in the industry. The reality is that what you learn in school is a lot different than what you’ll encounter later.”
What Arega-Hutton has learned is that you must have a supple mind and a solid set of social skills. “On the top of the must-have list is problem-solving ability,” she declares. “To that end, you must be detail oriented, persistent, creative, and flexible. You also have to know when to change your path. If you are a project engineer, you have to have good customer communication skills and customer relationships.”
Join these assets and you’ll position yourself for a promotion. “The people who get promoted are the people who have the technical skills for the job and who like new challenges, but who can also work on a team and are results oriented. You have to manifest leadership in a highly technical environment,” she says.
But is this highly technical environment good for women? Arega-Hutton comments, “Engineering is great for women. It’s still male-dominated, but young women should look into the field because it’s rewarding and exciting.”
And that goes double for the aerospace industry. Arega-Hutton states, “It’s a great industry. It has different levels of sophistication. You can be a manufacturer or designer. You can work on engines or cabin systems or many other areas or the controls.”
And triple for ITT. “ITT is a great place to work. There’s a lot of loyalty between employees and the corporation. There are a lot of lifetime employees here,” she concludes.

Stacey Kelly—
Bell Helicopter

Stacey Kelly is a technical resource specialist for external loads and structural design criteria and a work package manager for the armed reconnaissance helicopter for loads and fatigue at Bell. Based in Fort Worth, TX, Kelly savors the techo-magic in helicopters and tilt rotors. “I like the product that we manufacture. Helicopters are so unique. Nothing else hovers and nobody else makes tilt rotors,” she says.
Kelly also likes the corporate atmosphere that produces such technological wonders. “In my particular group, we enjoy a diverse set of activities,” she states. “For example, one of us is a fencer, one is a pilot, and I’m into horseback riding. We enjoy having a lot of discussions that are not necessarily work-related. They’re all bright and I enjoy swapping barbs with them. We all enjoy good-natured teasing. You tend to respect people more when they bring color into the workforce, as far as being interesting people. Bell wants well-rounded people.”
Playfulness is often a facet of sparkling intellect and intellect is always needed to get metal aloft and hovering. Kelly explains, “I like the challenges of engineering. Everyday that I come to work, I have a different engineering challenge to tackle. It’s easy to get bored in a job if you’ve been doing it for a while. Here, there’s always something new.”
However, you must often academically endure to be rewarded by such a challenging profession. “The first two years, many colleges actively try to weed out students,” she notes. “Just because you’re not doing well in these subjects doesn’t mean you won’t go on to flourish in engineering. The freshman year, they actively seek to push 50% of the students out of engineering. The second half of my freshman year, I earned a D in physics, but I managed to graduate with honors. I almost thought about changing majors and I’m glad I didn’t.”
Kelly did graduate from the University of Texas with a bachelor’s of science degree in aeronautical engineering. She parlayed that degree into a career that delivers daily challenges and pride. “Compared to rocket science, which everybody says is difficult, working on helicopters is far harder,” she mentions. “I know. I’ve done both. At Bell, we talk about fixed wings and how much simpler they are than our rotors. The tilt rotor combines the best of both worlds: the helicopter and the airplane. Whenever I see a Bell product, I feel a sense of pride about what I do.”

Stephanie Sipila
NASA

Stephanie Sipila is a hardware manager at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, TX. She is one of 15,000 employees, counting contractors, and 60,000 employees overall. Sipila likes the size of NASA—and its range. “NASA is really large,” she explains. “It encompasses a huge amount of capability. NASA covers work within all aspect of the space industry. Within my world, we do human space flight and specifically, spacewalks. We call that EVA, which is extra vehicular activity, meaning outside of the vehicle. Within my office, we provide spacewalk capability to all three of NASA’s space vehicles: the space shuttle, the International Space Station, and the Constellation, which is the new program going to the moon.”
So, how do you work for an organization that does what no one else does, which is to put people on the moon? Sipila says, “From my perspective, NASA looks for engineers who are sharp and creative. We do things that no one else has done. We have to think outside of the box and do it well. It takes courage to do what we do. We design the hardware and tools to go to space and work in space. However, with all that creativity, engineers also have to be grounded. We spend taxpayers’ dollars, so we have to make sure that what we do is achievable.”
What’s it like working for in a place as breathtaking and brainy as NASA? “More than anything else, I like the passion of the people with whom I work,” she answers. “Everyone loves what we do and believes in what we do that is important to society. You can tell that people believe in their jobs by the way they act and work. People wake up and want to go to work. There’s no doubt that our work is inspiring. Who doesn’t want to walk on the moon and go into space?”
To do what she does, Sipila earned a bachelor’s of science degree in engineering physics from Embry Riddle Aeronautical University and a master’s degree in space studies from International Space University. “There are two crucial things you have to do in college,” she advises students. “First thing, you have to complete is a cooperative education study. You have to figure out if what you study is what you think it is. When you do that, don’t be afraid to try something that seems out there. Open your eyes to all the possibilities. The second most important thing is to do more than study. Get involved—find an extracurricular activity. You want to come out of school well rounded. If you do more than just study, you teach yourself to have balance in your life.” Balance at NASA is also important. Sipila states, “The engineers who get promoted are the ones who have the balance among creativity, intelligence, and responsibility.”
Sipila’s seminal attraction to NASA came at an unexpected moment and through precocious reasoning. “It was accident that attracted me,” she remembers. “When something goes awry, you hear about it. I was in middle school and the Challenger accident happened in 1986. We just talked about it and I came home and said, ‘I want to be an astronaut.’”
So, how did she become an engineer? It was a teacher’s nudge. says, “I had a seventh grade science teacher who said, ‘You’re good at math and science. You should be an engineer.’ Right then, I decided I’d be an engineer, even though I didn’t even know what one did,” she recalls.
Now that she knows, how do people feel about her work?
“One of the neat things that I’ve done is to go out and talk to people outside of the industry and watch them light up because they think what we do is so ‘cool.’ It rejuvenates you. I love to watch the faces of children when I visit classrooms. I get letters too.”

Julie Anne Townsend—
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Julie Anne Townsend is a staff engineer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA, where she also works in mobility and robotic systems. Most people have played the part of a navigator, pre-GPS, with a map awkwardly spread on a lap and an anxious driver wondering if it’s “a right or a left.” Townsend is the ultimate navigator.
She explains, “I’m a Rover planner. I spend half my time on the Mars Exploration Rovers Mission. As a Rover planner or driver, I plot the path for the Rover. Scientists see the pictures that the Rover broadcasts and say, ‘I want to go look at that.’ So, we plot a safe path. The other half, I work on development of new robots for future missions. One is ATHLETE, which stands for All Terrain Hex-Limbed Extra-Terrestrial Explorer. ATHLETE is a six-legged robot that’s being developed to support manned missions to the moon. It’s a robot that will possibly be used as a support vehicle. We work with prototypes to see what they can do and determine if they’ll be worthwhile for a flight mission.”
How do you become a Rover driver and a robot builder? For Townsend, it began with a childhood without dolls and a summer with an egg. “Since I was a young child, I have always liked taking things apart to see how they work,” she recalls. “My parents had a definite sense of gender roles, so my brother got the Legos and I was never allowed to touch that stuff. It was quite frustrating. So, I always had that interest and when I was 13 years old, I took the Michigan Talent Test, through which middle-school students took the SATs. If you score high enough, you qualify for all sorts of summer programs. I qualified in English and math. I was into reading at the time and thought that English was going to be more my interest. I signed up for this summer program at Purdue University. I could sign up for two classes, so I signed up for one literature class and almost at random, I chose aerospace engineering. During my two weeks, my astronautical engineering class was fabulous. We learned about orbital mechanics, how you travel from one planet to another, and how a rocket is designed. I came back from this summer program and I told everyone I know that I was going to be an astronautical engineer.”
Today, Townsend finally gets her chance to play. She states, “I don’t think I’ll ever stop working. I enjoy my work. I’ve made myself a strong base in this career and there are many ways I can go with it. I might get into teaching someday, but I always want to be part of robotics development and inspiring the next generation of engineers. People who work here share the common dream that everyone has. I’ve worked in industry and had some internships, but what I’ve always found that’s different between working in industry and working at NASA is that people here really want to be here. They’re earning less pay and working more hours, but they believe in what they’re trying to accomplish. That gives the whole place an energy and a fantastic morale. There’s such an emphasis on excellence and always doing the absolute best that you can. It pushes everyone to achieve to his or her highest potential. Working here will never be a 9-to-5 job.”
To work at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Townsend earned a powerful academic pedigree. She earned a bachelor’s of science degree in aeronautics and astronautics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a master’s of science degree in aeronautics and astronautics at Stanford University. She’s currently working on her PhD in the same field at Stanford.
Then rocket science lit a fire under her. To light a similar fire, Townsend urges students to play. “The advice I always give to anyone who aspires to be an engineer is to find a way to play with robots” she declares. “Find a program, course, or club that gives you an opportunity to make a robot and tinker around. That hands-on experience is more valuable than what you learn in your classes. It’s not nearly as effective if you don’t learn the hands-on work. The First Robotics Program, which is a robotics competition for high- school students, is fantastic. There’s a related one with Legos for elementary school students.”


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